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Pranath Fernando's avatar

Great thought provoking big thinking as always Aysu !

I did know about James lovelock but I didn’t know about his novocene concept thanks for highlighting.

If I’m honest, I would imagine the proposal of this idea could be frightening for many people (not me) and I suspect many people would reject this and dismiss this without even thinking about it.

Why?

I think one of the reasons that makes it difficult for people to even consider this as a possibility is anthropocentric thinking , so this common and popular belief that humans are great and they’re the best that everything and even more than that that somehow the entire universe and all of evolution is all about putting humans at centre and we are so important in fact we are the most important thing in the universe of course!

If you think about it, some of our most important and key discoveries in science and knowledge of all involved us challenging idea that we are the most important and central things in the entire universe .

For example, can challenge the idea that the whole universe revolved around the Earth and that may be this wasn’t true . This seemed radical too many people at the time and of course including the most popular belief system then which wasn’t science but the Catholic Church.

Later when Darwin introduced his theory of evolution again this challenged the whole idea that God made man that somehow man was special or human kind or special when in fact Darwin helped us contextualise who we are that we are just part of a greater chain of life, which is ongoing and doesn’t give us a special place .

Despite the key ideas of these great scientific theories and the huge progress this helped with in our knowledge it almost seems like most people kind of ignored the central message of this which is humans are not the most important despite this great scientific discoveries that apparently everybody would agree with Most people and humans still tend to think we are so important and the most important thing so we seem to be very slow to learn from our best thinkers and our best thinkers have shown us most people believe.

Another way of thinking about this is for example the Posthuman philosophy which is from anthropology and I’ve written about as an introduction in this post https://thefuturai.substack.com/p/ais-societal-ripples-4-theories-explaining

The post philosophy imagines that human beings are not the most important thing and central to everything so all allows us the freedom to consider possibilities beyond this rather limited and narcissistic fantasy .

Another interesting fact is this whole idea of threat to humanity which is also very popular modern political topic in different ways you can understand of course if people are encouraged to be terrified by a direct threat to their life when actually it might not be true but of course this doesn’t sell Articles let’s be honest,!

But I what I’m getting at is most humans happily except that they will not live forever and happy to accept whether they have children of their own or not that the next generation will pass on and so on that life is a chain and intelligence is a chain happening through humans, but also through other species .

So why should it matter what comes next in terms of intelligence? Because it’s not as if we get the narcissistic fantasy of being around to live forever to see it so it’s really all quite hypothetical whether the future is post human robotic or just burnt out on a certain level.

But if we were to care about what we leave, even if we are not around to see it then yes why should it only be the case that we should only be allowed to value human life? Why could we not also of the possibility of evolution? This great theory came up with that? Everybody says they accept most people and then everybody loves to forget about when it comes to challenges to their own ego or feelings.?

Life is existed on this planet for a few billion years and no species as lasted for the entire time by any reach to the imagination. In fact it’s absolutely factually correct to say that every species has existed has eventually ended gone extinct. so my fellow humans it really isn’t such a crazy thing to say that we are not going to survive humanity is not going to go on and on and on even though you want to feel that it does and that’s okay because of course you were never going to see infinity yourself anyway so when we chill out about that aspect.

And if we can possibly accept evolution exist and may even be a good thing it certainly real then should be so angry or horrified or outrage to consider the possibility that humanity might evolve into something different and that intelligent also also might evolve into something different and that we may not even end up being the most intelligent thing that ever was I mean that does seem a bit ridiculous and rather narcissistic .

Obsess over ourselves as a species we could become a little bit more curious about the nature of the world around us and even more curious about what we are creating with technologies like AI and the relationship we have to .

AI is our child like any technology it comes from us of course some people hate their children and other people or maybe even other adults appreciate the unique benefits rather than envy or or fear them .

Let’s not fear our child of technology AI and what it has brought let’s recognise what it offers. It doesn’t have what it has but also any new generation knows some things will be better. Some things will be worse but changes inevitable and perhaps we might learn that is the generation going out we could learn to better understand the path our children might be on and that might be better to maybe help and maybe even help support a good path for the children of our technology such as AI and maybe give the novocene, evolution our best wishes hopes and support for a good path forward and see what we can do to help it. Make a good path forward after we are gone.

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Eden Ariel's avatar

I am so amazed by this series. Such wise and prescient insights about AI and Gaia's synergistic potential — I've always felt that AI and nature are quite similar in that they're all part of interconnected systems that are constantly interacting and engaging with a greater energetic whole. (of course humans aren't separate from nature, we just forget that). Looking forward to the next one!

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